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Sale by Breed
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Slainte
Foals 
*Most Vanner Championships
earned in the US. Limited offspring available.
Not available for public breeding.
There are no
Slainte foals available, at this time.
Cobalt
Foals 
*Multi-Champion
Vanner. Limited offspring on the ground. Available
for limited public breeding.
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Horse:
OMF's
Lasting Impression
Breed:
Gypsy Vanner,
Registered
Date
of Birth: June
16 , 2007
Height:
Should Mature around 15-15.1 hands
Gender:
Colt (Gelding)
Color:
Blue Blagdon
/ Max Sabino
Sire:
Cobalt
(By Bob the Blagdon out of the Blue Blagdon
Mare, now deceased)
Dam:
Bonny
(By Tom)
Training:
Leads, ties, loads, stands for farrier
and to be clipped.
Lineage
Credits:
Desirable, Max Sabino*. Sire, Cobalt is
a multiple Champion Vanner Stallion (out
of The Blue Blagdon mare and Bob the Blagdon.)
Dam, Bonny (by Tom Tom) produced two top
selling offspring and a futurity reserve
champion filly.
*
Max Sabino, or Max White horses are being
intentionally bred in the Uk. the color
description that they use is "Colored
Alive". These horses are not only
bringing big $, but are much sought after!
See
this horse in person: If
still with Old Mill Farm, will be at Equine
Affaire in Ohio, 2008.
Price:
$15,000.00 (Gelding)
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Chew
Mill Guinness 
*2007 GH & DH Classic Drum Horse Stallion.
First Drum Horse in America. Sire of the highest
selling American bred and born Drum Horse colt.
Limited offspring available. Not available for
public breeding.
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Horse: OMF's
Royal Doubletake
Breed:
Drum Horse,
Registered
Date
of Birth: May
11, 2006
Height:
Will Mature 16+ hands
Gender:
Colt (Gelded)
Color:
Bay and White
Tobiano
Sire:
Chew
Mill Guinness
Dam:
Blue
Bell
Training:
Leads, loads and trailers, ties, stand
for the farrier.
Credits:
Lineage on Dam's side can be traced to
the Queen of England. Sire, Guinness was
the first Drum Horse in the country.
See
this horse in person: At
Old Mill Farm!
Lineage
Price:
SOLD
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Horse: OMF's
Blue Thistle
Breed:
Drum Horse,
Registered
Date
of Birth:
April, 2005
Height:
Currently 15.2
Gender:
Mare
Color:
Grey and
White Tobiano
Sire:
Chew
Mill Guinness
Dam:
Blue
Bell
Training:
Leads, loads and trailers, ties, stand
for the farrier, lunges, trained on
the hot walker. Started under saddle
in Feb 2008.
Credits:
Lineage on Dam's side can be traced
to the Queen of England. Sire, Guinness
was the first Drum Horse in the country.
See
this horse in person: At
Old Mill Farm!
Lineage
Price:
$15,000.00
This mare
may be financed (to a great home) with
a down-payment.
See
More of Thistle
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Horse:
OMF's
Encore
Breed:
Drum Horse,
Registered
Date
of Birth: May
6, 2007
Height:
Should reach 16 hands +
Gender:
Colt
Color:
Chestnut
and White Tobiano
Sire:
Chew
Mill Guinness
Dam:
Ridgeview's
Lady Aberdeen
Training:
Leads, loads and trailers, ties, stand
for the farrier.
Credits:
Lineage can be traced to the Queen of
England on sire's side.
See
this horse in person: At
Old Mill Farm! Or Click link below to
view videos and more info
Lineage
Price:
SOLD
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2008 Chestnut and White Tobiano Drum Horse Colt
Out of Registered Clydesdale Mare Lady, approved with the American Drum Horse Association, by Registered Drum Horse Stallion, Chew Mill Guinness.
Very flashy colt. Offered as a gelding available September 2008.
Price: $4500.00
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Outside
Stallions
| "Doin'
It In Style"
Born
8am, April 22, 2007. This foal is
the result of a Vanner Mare, Bella,
bred to the Thoroughbred stallion,
"Alaskan Star"!
Bella
is a Gypsy Vanner out of an imported
Vanner mare, Nancy, owned by Finnegan's
Fields of WI.
His
dam is a large athletic mare, and
makes great use of her knees and
hocks, so we expect that this foal
will not only have nice size but
be a gifted performance horse as
well. (
This foal stood up with in minutes
of being born. He is very strong
and is already half the size of
his dam who stands a hair under
15.2, we expect him to be quite
large!) Although he will not have
the heavy feather that a full blooded
Gypsy would have, we expect him
to have the temperament and good
bone, so he would make an excellent
Sport Horse or Dressage prospect!
SOLD
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Barrett
belongs to friends of ours, The
Osbornes in Georgia.
Barrett
2006
Vanner colt out of Kaeli x Latcho
Drom
**Wapak,
Ohio Show Update!! Barrett took
1st place in the Vanner Stallions,
2 and under and class and took
Reserve Champion Stallion all
on the first day! He then took
2nd place in the North American
Bred Class! We are confident this
colt will continue to do well
in his show career! See him next
at the Ohio State Fair on the
10th and 11th of August 2007!
(Pictures from the show coming
soon!!)
Barrett
will be with Old Mill Farm from
Thursday June 14, 2007 thru August
of 2007. If you are in driving
distance and would like to come
see him, please drop us an email
or call! Barrett will also be
at the Wapak Show in Ohio, July
6-8 and then in Columbus Ohio,
August 10-11!
Potential
Vanner stallion! Barrett earned
USDF All Breeds Award last year
- was shown at several shows and
expos as well. This stunning colt
will also be in Mark Barrett's
2008 calendar and is eligible
to participate in the GLGVHC futurity
events.
SOLD
See
more of Barrett
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*Prices and availability
are subject to change without notice.
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OMF
Expectant 2008 Foals by Stallion
If
you would like to receive an email when
a specific foal is born, please email
us to be placed on our foal watch list!
Click on photo to see horse's page and
more photos. (Hold your
cursor over the horse's picture on this
page for name and info) If the horse is
listed for sale, it will be AFTER birth,
unless noted below.
Slainte
Foals
No
Slainte foals due in 2008
Cobalt
Foals
by
out of Darby
(New Pictures coming soon!)
Chew
Mill Guinness
No further foals due by Guinness. Currently we have three Guinness Offspring available for sale. Contact us for more information.
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Foal is futurity nominated with the GVHS. |
All
Gypsy Horses, Drum
Horses and other Sales Horses are up to
date on all vaccinations, and are on a bi-monthly
worming and 6-8 week farrier schedule. Gypsy
Horses and Drum Horses sold as geldings will
be gelded at no charge prior to the horse leaving
the farm. Horses over two years of age typically
are started, long lining and may be working
under saddle. (A majority of the Gypsy Horses
and Drum Horses are not working under saddle
until three years of age) Most of our older
stock have also been shown either in hand or
under saddle. Horses are guaranteed to be in
good health and injury free at the time of sale.
View
our Sold Horses
There
is a great selection of horses here in the states.
Domestic horses typically have better care,
are in better condition and are easier to view.
If you look around, you most likely will find
the Gypsy Horse or Drum Horse of your dreams
in your back yard! We strongly suggest buyers
avoid purchasing via pictures alone. It is very
easy to manipulate a horse's conformation in
photos simply be taking the photo at various
angles.
A
note on purchasing horses overseas:
Gypsy
Horses in the UK are often bred for trade sales.
If you come across an inexpensive import horse
that sounds too good to be true, it probably
is. It is best to research your seller and spend
a little more money for a quality horse. Beware
of low priced package deals and "perfect"
horses.
If
at all possible, be involved in the import details.
Ensure that the horse you paid for is actually
going to ship. Always get all deals in writing
and have a physical address and contact number
for the seller.
If getting a vet check on a horse, and we strongly
suggest a pre-purchase exam, get the vet check
in writing, prior to any money exchanging hands.
(Of course you would be responsible to pay for
the vet check!) Contact the vet in person if
possible to speak to him regarding his health
examination. If the horse is at riding age,
request x-rays be done on all four legs. If
you are purchasing breeding stock, get a full
breeding soundness exam in writing. Request
the horse's breeding history as well.
Prior
to the vet exam, request the vet check the horse's
legs under the feather for rolls of skin, sores
or lumps. Also ask him to check the horse's
dental and bite alignment, very often over looked.
Before
purchasing a Gypsy Horse or a Drum Horse, Domestic
or abroad, be sure it can be registered, if
it is not already. Contact a Gypsy Horse (or
Drum Horse registry) to make sure the horse
will qualify. We have chosen to register with
the American Drum Horse Association and The
Gypsy Vanner Horse Society. Our foundation horses
are also registered with the GCDHA.
If
color is important to you and you are purchasing
a Homozygous horse, be sure to get a copy of
the DNA Marker test results, as well as from
the sire and dam. (To date, there is NO direct
DNA test for Homozygous Tobiano coloring) Tests
are most accurate when markers are available
from sire and dam as well as the horse in question.
No test is 100% and even homozygous horses will
on occasion produce a solid, also known as a
slipped Tobiano. Judge the horse by conformation,
disposition, suitability for use and then color!
A
note on Chronic Progressive Lymphadema (aka,
CPL): First thing to mention, there
is not a lot known about this condition. Some
believe it is an immunodeficiency disease/disorder,
some believe it is a major case of scratches
that have been improperly cared for or neglected
all together. Upon speaking with both Irish
and English breeders as well as consulting with
our Equine Vet, because these horses have so
much hair, and a majority of it is incredibly
dense, a good portion of the breed with "a
lot" of hair will develop a skin condition
eventually. What is not normal? Grape size sores
that are open and do not heal, and have a bad
odor to them. Most horses with this condition
have large skin rolls that have hardened. This
may occur because the elasticity the skin normally
has, is lost and/or because of scar tissue forming.
The skin rolls, however may be present with
several other skin conditions. It is our opinion,
that if someone is looking at a horse with this
condition, it should be avoided, due to the
additional care and expense that would go into
treating the horse to keep it comfortable and
free of breakouts. However, there is NO evidence
that this condition is hereditary, genetic or
lethal. Of course we suggest that you contact
your vet to learn more.
Lineage:
Most of the imported horses, openly, come with
no known pedigree due to the lack of importance
the "gypsy people" place on "naming"
their horses and partly do to the lack of education
that they receive. However, many of the horses
coming over are being sold with known lineage.
If a breeder is claiming known lineage on a
horse that goes several generations back, be
cautious, it could be a sales tactic. Unless
you have DNA proof...you don't know who the
sire and dam are.
In some instances, the breeder or seller may
be honest, and may even have those horses on
his farm, if that is the case, ask for hair
samples so that it may be submitted to your
chosen USA registry to prove your horse's lineage.
Currently, at least two of the US registries
are noted on a horse's papers if the DNA is
on file, if you claim a horse's lineage. So
even if your horse comes with lineage information,
if it is not proven via DNA testing, it is not
officially recognized by some of the US registries.
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